Ezekiel 1–3; 33–34; 36–37; 47 • Dr. Matthew Grey • Nov 2–8 • Come, Follow Me 2026

What if God’s throne room could move on wheels, covered in eyes, and show up for you in the middle of exile? Dr. Matthew Grey joins Hank and John to unpack Ezekiel’s wild chariot-throne vision, his dung-fueled bread and other prophetic object lessons, and why the historical and temple context turns this bizarre book into a message of hope. SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTS English: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT245EN Spanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT245ES French: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT245FR Portuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT245PT German: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT245DE NOW AVAILABLE IN Spanish @followHIMespañol French @followHIMFrançais Portuguese @followHIMPortuguês ALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTES followHIM website: https://www.followHIM.co FREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKS New Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBook Old Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBook Book of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast TIMECODES 00:01:19 Meet Dr. Matt Grey (and Hank and John's modeling careers) 00:03:26 Why Ezekiel gets overlooked and how to read it in context 00:08:02 Matt's background, A Place Called Gethsemane, and Picturing Christ 00:11:20 Being a faithful Latter-day Saint in biblical scholarship 00:15:14 Ezekiel's background: born into a priestly family, Zadokite lineage 00:20:39 Why Ezekiel sees things through a priestly lens 00:23:07 How the book of Ezekiel is organized 00:26:21 "What did it mean to them?" Asking the context question first 00:30:17 Ezekiel 1: The wild chariot throne vision 00:35:33 Connections to Isaiah 6, Revelation, and Lehi's vision 00:39:32 The Holy of Holies on wheels: God goes into exile too 00:44:41 Applying it: when life doesn't go the way you planned 00:47:56 The dome, the firmament, and a scale model of the universe 00:52:11 Ezekiel 2-3: Eating the scroll 00:57:16 Oracles of judgment and prophetic object lessons 01:00:16 Lying on his side for 390 days and the dung bread negotiation 01:05:14 Ezekiel 8-11: The defiled temple vision 01:09:37 Marked foreheads and the angels of destruction 01:11:20 The heavenly Harley: God's glory leaves Jerusalem 01:14:02 Chapters 33-39: The turn to hope and restoration 01:15:46 The valley of dry bones and the two sticks 01:18:08 Joe Spencer on how to read the stick of Judah and Joseph 01:22:10 Gog and Magog, and reading Ezekiel responsibly 01:26:58 Ezekiel 40-48: The vision of the new temple 01:31:12 A guided tour of Ezekiel's temple 01:40:33 Why the sanctuary is empty and God's glory returns 01:42:06 The river of life that heals the Dead Sea 01:45:52 "The Lord is there": How the book ends 01:47:34 Ezekiel's temple vs. Isaiah's house of prayer for all nations 01:49:24 How the Gospel of John draws on Ezekiel to portray Jesus 01:55:16 Wrap-up and reflections 01:58:09 Closing thanks and credits Thanks to the followHIM team: Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host John Bytheway: Co-host David Perry: Director Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes Will Stoughton: Video Editor Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts Heather Barlow: Communications Director Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com