They Are Hiding It: Retired Admiral's Warning to the Public

Retired Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet on his meeting with the Pentagon's UFO office, AARO, and what he calls an influence operation. "I laughed at them. I called them out. I said, I'm an information warfare officer in the Navy. I know exactly what you're doing." AARO invited Admiral Gallaudet to speak through its Navy liaison, a friend of his. He sat with then-acting director Tim Phillips, and when he asked about Chris Mellon's critique of the historical records report, Phillips gave him a blunt, unprintable verdict on Mellon. Phillips also told him, "I'm also a Title 50 guy," which the admiral took to mean counterintelligence. He thinks that was the beginning of an attempt to basically turn him, "an influence operation for all intents and purposes." After he left Phillips's office, Phillips's people argued the Tic Tac UFO was U.S. technology and worked him hard. The meeting was supposed to run 90 minutes and turned out to be about two and a half hours. Matt Ford raises Tim Phillips's later podcast comments and lays out what he calls just a theory: that Phillips and Sean Kirkpatrick were given top cover after leaving AARO to push the narrative that what we have been seeing is next-gen blue force or red force tech. Admiral Gallaudet says he could potentially understand this kind of influence operation by AARO, "if you will," given the messaging aimed at adversaries like China and Russia, but he thinks Phillips would never say such things in an open, unclassified setting if they were true. Either way, he says, "Congress did not establish AARO for those means." Matt closes on AARO's contract language, which he believes Rob Heatherly found: the prime contractor answers to the Director of Information and Perception Management. WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW ▶️ https://youtu.be/LN1EMbDCX3Y This conversation starts at 39:27 in the full episode. ABOUT THE GUEST Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, U.S. Navy (ret.), PhD, served 32 years in the U.S. Navy, finishing as the Navy's chief oceanographer, meteorologist, hydrographer and navigator in the Pentagon. He went on to serve as acting Administrator of NOAA and is a member of the U.S. UAP Science Advisory Council and a research affiliate of Harvard University's Galileo Project. 🌐 https://www.timgallaudet.com HIS BOOK Holding Fast in Heavy Seas: Leadership for Turbulent Times by Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet 📘 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Holding-Fast-Heavy-Seas-Leadership/dp/B0GW9HKK74 📗 Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/p/books/holding-fast-in-heavy-seas-leadership-for-turbulent-times-by-rear-admiral/496fa81ebf260996 CHAPTERS 0:00 AARO and "blue force equities" 0:29 Meeting acting director Tim Phillips 1:28 Chris Mellon's critique and a "Title 50 guy" 2:01 "An influence operation for all intents and purposes" 2:14 "They worked me hard" 3:28 Matt Ford on Tim Phillips's podcast comments 5:23 China, Russia, and what Congress created AARO for 6:21 AARO's contracts CONNECT 🌐 Website: https://thegoodtroubleshow.com 🔔 Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGoodTroubleShow 🎧 Podcast: Search "The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford" on all platforms 💬 X/Twitter: @GoodTroubleShow 💰 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thegoodtroubleshow #UFO #UAP #UFONews #AARO #Pentagon #TheGoodTroubleShow