Liberalism or communism? with Adam Tooze

How did we get into this mess, and what politics do we need to get out of it? A Marxist debates with his liberal friend to find answers. Host Barnaby Raine and historian Adam Tooze discuss Marx, Lenin, Keynes and Mao. They talk about how neoliberalism got made, climate politics now from Green New Deals to degrowth, the rise of China and the future of Europe -- before disagreeing on whether genocide in Gaza condemns the whole project of Western civilisation. This is the inaugural episode of postscript, a new podcast from Tribune magazine. Barnaby and Adam start by setting out the project, asking why revolutionary transformation feels so hard to imagine today and how we can inherit radical ideas from lost worlds of the past. Visit https://tribunemag.co.uk/subscribe to subscribe to Tribune's quarterly print edition - new issue out soon! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6vDsWGPmANlehnFfSov7qi?si=85b43703018c4eda Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/liberalism-or-communism-with-adam-tooze/id6794328354?i=1000778193110 PODCAST CHAPTERS 00:00 - Introducing postscript 01:59 - Naming our crisis 15:59 - Keynesianism 32:14 - Neoliberalism 35:11 - Class struggle 43:48 - Green New Deals 59:43 - Degrowth 01:04:15 - Coalitions 01:09:00 - Lenin 01:12:00 - China 01:25:57 - Europe 01:30:29 - Gaza and the end of the West